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Tuesday, October 05, 2010

Quotations from Elder Boyd K Packer

Over the weekend, the Mormons held their semi-annual conference. All of the leaders of the Church, or as we call them, "General Authorities," speak at these events. It's how they spread word of the latest revelations the Lord has given them.

I always enjoy Elder Packer's "talks*," not only because he's almost a homie--he got his start as a seminary** teacher at my my high school's nearest rival, Box Elder High in Brigham City, UT--but also because he's God's point man on social issues. He sits down with the Lord, and his son, Jesus Christ, regularly, and they shoot the breeze about things like ladies rights, bad touching, and the importance of lying. Then, at the next Church conference, Elder Packer tells us what God had to say.

Apparently, God went on a rant about homosexualism the last time they got together, because that was the subject of Elder Packer's conference talk last weekend. You can watch or read it at Pam's place, but essentially he said: homosexualism is a choice; it can be cured; and it's a wickedness that shouldn't be legal.

Inasmuch as the blogs are all abuzz with Elder Packer's talk, I thought it might be interesting to go back and provide a few quotes of things he said in other talks. It'll help you get a full measure of one of the Church's most powerful Apostles--he's next in line to become the Prophet if he outlives the current one.

Elder Packer on Miscegenation:
We've always counseled in the Church for our Mexican members to marry Mexicans, our Japanese members to marry Japanese, our Caucasians to marry Caucasians, our Polynesian members to marry Polynesians. The counsel has been wise.
--At BYU
Elder Packer on Women:
I am for protecting the rights of a woman to be a woman, a feminine, female woman; a wife and a mother.
--Thoughts on the Equal Rights Amendment
The woman pleading for help needs to see the eternal nature of things and to know that her trials -- however hard to bear -- in the eternal scheme of things may be compared to a very, very bad experience in the second semester of the first grade. She will find no enduring peace in the feminist movement. There she will have no hope. If she knows the plan of redemption, she can be filled with hope.
--Speech to All-Church Coordinating Council
Elder Packer on The Study of History:
I have a hard time with historians, because historians idolize the truth. The truth is not uplifting. The truth destroys. And historians should tell only that part of the truth that is uplifting, and if it's religious history, that's faith-promoting. Historians don't like doing that, and that's why I have a hard time with historians.
--to historian D. Michael Quinn (who was later excommunicated for writing heretical history)
Some things that are true are not very useful.
One who chooses to follow the tenets of his profession, regardless of how they may injure the Church or destroy the faith of those not ready for "advanced history," is himself in spiritual jeopardy. If that one is a member of the Church, he has broken his covenants and will be accountable. After all of the tomorrows of mortality have been finished, he will not stand where be might have stood.
In the Church we are not neutral. We are one-sided. There is a war going on and we are engaged in it. It is the war between good and evil, and we are belligerents defending the good. We are therefore obliged to give preference to and protect all that is represented in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and we have made covenants to do it.
I have on occasion been disappointed when I have read statements that tend to belittle or degrade the Church or past leaders of the Church in writings of those who are supposed to be worthy members of the Church. When I have commented on my disappointment to see that in print, the answer has been. "It was printed before, and it's available, and therefore I saw no reason not to publish it again."
You do not do well to see that it is disseminated. It may be read by those not mature enough for "advanced history," and a testimony in seedling stage may be crushed.
--at the 5th Annual Church Educational System Religious Educators' Symposium
* Mormon sermons are called "talks."
** All Mormon teens are expected to attend seminary classes. They are held during school hours in Utah and before school everywhere else.

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  1. General, Sir:

    Is aposhole Boyd K. Packer the same guy who's known in some faraway gentile "men's clubs" as Mr. Fudge Packer? I'm just wonderin', cuz that feller looks like he's too busy packin' away the limejello with marshmallows to pack much fudge, but appearances can be deceiving.

  2. What is this thing called "Mormonism?" There weren't any of them 200 years ago, and now they're into everybody's business. Smug, self-righteous, bizarre, homosexually-obsessed: I know they do wonderful things with lime jello and non-caffeinated soft drinks, but outside of their multiple partner perks, what do they have to offer? A planet of your own to live on when you're dead? These are either deeply cynical or profoundly addled human beings (perhaps both). Only in America...


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  4. I'm with him on this "Truth" thing. Truth is a pesky thing. If I tell Seattle Tammy that I've been working late and not necessarily that I've had a few with the boys, or I've been visiting some of my lonely female friends (who just need a bit of company), why should we let "truth' interfere with the facts as I present them?

  5. ... I couldn't help noticing the message his middle finger might be imparting in the photo ...

  6. Anonymous1:32 PM

    Re: women pleading for help should regard their "difficulties" as no big deal in The Greater Scheme of Things--I'm reminded of the medieval Catholic Church's exhorting women & children to "kiss the rod" their husbands & fathers beat them with because the rod was just directing them back to their proper place in God's plan. Clearly Mormonism took the long way to get back to the same place.

    "Truth destroys" & "isn't useful", huh? Query: just what is destroyed by truth, & to whom is it not useful? Never mind, it's clear that troublesome truth leads to analytical reasoning & questioning & that's obviously useless to "faith."

  7. Oh, I thought you said he was an Elder Packer. Everbody's got their little fetish.

  8. Liars for the Lord? What's next, Covens in Congress?

  9. Just for the record, Elder Packer did receive a direct revelation in November of 2008. Since the Mormons claim their church is governed by revelation, once again at a critical moment, they were given the cue to get off their asses and do something. Gabriel, the Bright and Morning Star of Nebadon, personally delivered to Elder Packer orders for immediate repentance throughout the church for their iniquitous involvement in anti-lgbt activity and teaching on penalty of corporate dissolution by the universe government. Elder Packer failed in his elected life purpose to accomplish this and no longer has any spiritual connection to cosmic reality. His speech is the ranting of a mindless zombie and those who believe him are the same. If you hear the voice of truth in this statement, then know it is true. If not, forget it...

  10. So how come his nickname is "Fudge" Packer?

  11. As a former resident of Brigham City and an acquaintance of the Packers who still reside there I know--and it's a documented fact that, at night, the Packer women chain their husbands to the bed so the angels will not steal them during the night. Their seed is a highly vaunted commodity in kolob.

  12. Just another reason to turn down those annoying little creepos in suits and white shirts, on bicycles, when they try to convert me...


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